Ohjus on viety vuonna 1986 Ukrainaan, saman vuonna kun tuon ohjustyypin valmistus lopetettiin. Myöhemmin on valmistettu muita tyyppejä, joissa on mm. erilaiset srapnellit. Nämä ohjukset vanhenivat vuonna 2011, luonnollisesti myös Suomessa.
https://www.rt.com/news/438596-mh17-downing-russian-briefing/
Serial numbers of missile that downed MH17 show it was produced in 1986, owned by Ukraine – Russia
There are two serial numbers found on fragments of the missile, which shot down the passenger airliner in June 2014 according to an international team of investigators led by the Netherlands. The numbers were marked on the engine and the nozzle of the missile.
The Russian military on Monday said they had traced them to a missile which had the producer serial number 8868720.
Speaking to journalists, Gen. Nikolay Parshin showed a document trail of the Buk missile. According to the documents, some of which have been declassified for the presentation, it was produced at a military plant in Dolgoprudny in the Moscow region in 1986.
The missile was shipped from the plant on December 29, 1986 and delivered to military unit 20152 located in what is now Ukraine. It is now called 223rd anti-aircraft defense regiment of the Ukrainian armed forces, the report said. The unit took part in Kiev’s crackdown on rebels in eastern Ukraine in June 2014, the general said.
The evidence disproves the accusations by Ukraine and some other parties, which claim that a missile fired by a launcher, secretly delivered from Russia, was responsible for the downing of MH17, the Ministry of Defense report said. All the materials have been sent to the Dutch investigators, the Russian military added.
The Russian military also challenges video footage used by the UK-based group Bellingcat, which calls itself a citizen journalism organization, to back its allegations about the delivery of the Buk launcher from Russia. The Defense Ministry showed a video clip with some of the footage, highlighting inconsistencies, which it said proved that the footage had been manipulated to place images of the launcher into background which were not in the original.
The Bellingcat investigation was featured in the latest update by Dutch prosecutors involved in the MH17 investigation, prompting them to directly accuse Russia of providing the launcher and the missile. The Russian military said it decided after this to study the purported trail of photo and video evidence showing the path of the launcher in detail. The Russian video showed an example of how an Abrams tank can be shown to be carried by a trailer in the streets of Ukraine in the same way.
On tyhmää uskoa RT:n propagandaa
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”.. according to an international team of investigators led by the Netherlands. “
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Hollantilaiset eivät vain vielä tiedä tiimin uudesta ’löydöstä’.
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Flight MH17: Russia and its changing story
Who shot down MH17?
Australia and the Netherlands said in response to the findings that they held Russia responsible for bringing down the passenger jet, appealing to Russia to accept its responsibility and co-operate fully.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45546611
17 September 2018
MH17 crash: Dutch ask Russia to submit new claims
[MH17 tuho: Hollanti pyytää Venäjää toimittaman uudet väittensä]
Dutch prosecutors investigating the downing of flight MH17 have said they will study any information that Russia provides, after its officials said they had proof the missile that hit the plane was in Ukrainian hands.
The Malaysian aircraft went down with the loss of 298 lives in July 2014.
Russian officials have repeatedly pointed the finger of blame at Ukraine.
They accused an international team of investigators of using fake videos to show the missile had come from Russia.
Prosecutors say Russian information so far has been wrong ”on several points” and previous requests for help have been unanswered.
What do investigators say happened?
In May, the international joint investigation team (JIT) concluded that the Malaysia Airlines plane was shot down over eastern Ukraine by a Russian-made Buk missile, supplied by the country’s 53rd anti-aircraft brigade in Kursk.
The team provided images, video, and an animation of a convoy of Buk-Telar rockets heading from Russia in late June 2014, with the Buk in question being transported by a Volvo truck with a white cabin.
Australia and the Netherlands said in response to the findings that they held Russia responsible for bringing down the passenger jet, appealing to Russia to accept its responsibility and co-operate fully.
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What is Russia arguing?
In an apparent attempt to hit back at the JIT’s conclusions, Russian defence officials alleged on Monday that some of the videos showing the Buk missile system were fabricated, with the tow truck carrying the missile added later.
They said the missile was made at Dolgoprudny outside Moscow in 1986 and then delivered by rail to a military unit in the Ternopol area of Ukraine.
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They also provided an audio recording, alleging that it showed Ukrainian servicemen in 2016 saying they would bring down ”another Malaysian Boeing”.
Russia has given differing accounts over time of how MH17 was shot down in eastern Ukraine, as conflict raged between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces.
At one point, Russian officials said the Boeing 777 was downed by a Ukrainian air-to-air missile fired by a Ukrainian fighter. Russian TV even produced a much-ridiculed satellite photograph purporting to show the moment of attack.
Flight MH17: Russia and its changing story
Who shot down MH17?
What reaction has there been?
The joint investigation team in the Netherlands responded to Russia by saying it would ”meticulously study” its information as soon as the documents were made available.
In a statement, the JIT said it had always carefully analysed information provided by Russia, and found that information ”previously presented to the public and provided to the JIT was factually inaccurate on several points”.
Russia had left unanswered a request to provide all relevant information in 2014, as well as a specific request last May for details about recovered missile parts, the team said. Investigators highlighted a UN Security Council resolution in 2016 which obliged all states to co-operate fully with the international investigation.
Ukraine’s Defence Minister Stepan Poltorak dismissed Russia’s claim as a lie and ”another fake story”.
Eliot Higgins, who set up the Bellingcat online investigation website after the downing of MH17, said Russian defence officials had misinterpreted shadows and objects in their attempt to show there was a problem with lighting in the videos produced by international investigators.
Tällaiset tiedot voidaan aivan pilkulleen tarkistaa: sarjanumerot, etti ole jälkeenpäin raaputettu, asiakirjat, että on alkuperäiset paperit ja musteen jne.
Onko tässä yksi valhe venäläisten valheiden sarjassa:
There are two serial numbers found on fragments of the missile, which shot down the passenger airliner in June 2014 according to an international team of investigators led by the Netherlands. The numbers were marked on the engine and the nozzle of the missile.
“ ..according to an international team of investigators led by the Netherlands’
Venäläiset ‘tietävät. mutta hollantilaiset, tiimin vetäjät, eivät tiedä mitään sarjanumeron löytymisestä.
Hollantilaiset tiimin vetäjät ovat pimittäneet. Almaz on myös saattanut aikansa pimittää noita numeroita. Suomalaiset ovat selvittänet, mikä BUK se oli, koska Suomessa sattui olleen käytössä tasan samanlainen.